Lupe Silva, 17, (left) and her girlfriend Brandy Johnson, 17, both seniors, were voted "Cutest Couple" for the Waukegan High School's yearbook. Then what did stupid Bill O'Reilly have to sayO'REILLY: ...we don't want to normalize homosexuality in a public way in an academic setting, high school, among minors. We don't think that reflects...
BERMAN: Why?
O'REILLY: ...how we feel about it. Well, for a number of reasons. One, social. It's much more difficult to be homosexual than a heterosexual in America. Two, religious. There are people who believe that that kind of a life style...
BERMAN: Sure.
O'REILLY: ...is against their religion. And they passed it on to their children.
BERMAN: Sure.
O'REILLY: Three, an exposition of sexuality in a minor - and that's very important - in a minor situation is inappropriate in an academic setting. All of those things are valid, doctor...
BERMAN: Sure.
O'REILLY: ...and they shouldn't be condescended to.
BERMAN: Why?
O'REILLY: ...how we feel about it. Well, for a number of reasons. One, social. It's much more difficult to be homosexual than a heterosexual in America. Two, religious. There are people who believe that that kind of a life style...
BERMAN: Sure.
O'REILLY: ...is against their religion. And they passed it on to their children.
BERMAN: Sure.
O'REILLY: Three, an exposition of sexuality in a minor - and that's very important - in a minor situation is inappropriate in an academic setting. All of those things are valid, doctor...
BERMAN: Sure.
O'REILLY: ...and they shouldn't be condescended to.
and then....
O'REILLY: Look, I've been very consistent on this since my first book was written. I think private behavior belongs in private settings.
BERMAN: Right.
O'REILLY: I don't think it belongs in the high school yearbook.
BERMAN: But you'd be OK with the cutest couple, heterosexual couple, though.
O'REILLY: I would be, because that is the norm of society. See, it's the same gay marriage thing. You have a six percent option here. Homosexuals, according to research, are 6 percent of the population.
BERMAN: But since.
O'REILLY: And...What?
BERMAN: But since African-Americans are a minority, would you have a problem with an African- American heterosexual couple?
O'REILLY: No, because African - because race is no conduct. There is a difference between who you are and what you do. And that is another.
BERMAN: So you're judging homosexuality as.
O'REILLY: Not judging - I'm not judging anybody and anything. I'm telling you that there's a legitimate point of view that, number one, you don't allow sexuality to intrude in your high school yearbook, because they are minors.
BERMAN: Right. This isn't about sexuality.
O'REILLY: Sure it is.
BERMAN: Right.
O'REILLY: I don't think it belongs in the high school yearbook.
BERMAN: But you'd be OK with the cutest couple, heterosexual couple, though.
O'REILLY: I would be, because that is the norm of society. See, it's the same gay marriage thing. You have a six percent option here. Homosexuals, according to research, are 6 percent of the population.
BERMAN: But since.
O'REILLY: And...What?
BERMAN: But since African-Americans are a minority, would you have a problem with an African- American heterosexual couple?
O'REILLY: No, because African - because race is no conduct. There is a difference between who you are and what you do. And that is another.
BERMAN: So you're judging homosexuality as.
O'REILLY: Not judging - I'm not judging anybody and anything. I'm telling you that there's a legitimate point of view that, number one, you don't allow sexuality to intrude in your high school yearbook, because they are minors.
BERMAN: Right. This isn't about sexuality.
O'REILLY: Sure it is.
and then......
O'REILLY: But you're dismissing a very legitimate point. This is inappropriate. You do not define yourself in a high school yearbook.
BERMAN: Only if you judge sexuality.
O'REILLY: .in a sexual way. Period. You don't do it.
BERMAN: These kids — these kids need support. And they need to know that it's OK to be who they are.
O'REILLY: Well, let them go to a support group run by you. It doesn't need to be.
BERMAN: Here I am.
O'REILLY: You know, you don't have to take out posters and put them on your front lawn.
BERMAN: Because they're supporting all the other kids that are stuck in hiding and now will feel safer.
O'REILLY: That is your extrapolation. Somebody else would say you're encouraging that kind of experimentation...
BERMAN: You can't encourage it.
O'REILLY: ...when you don't have to do it.
BERMAN: It happens anyway.
O'REILLY: All right, doctor, that's the old argument. Let's legalize drugs because it happens anyway. There's got to be boundaries.
BERMAN: Drugs are not the same. Homosexuality is not illegal.
O'REILLY: But it — you know what I'm talking about.
BERMAN: And it shouldn't be illegal.
O'REILLY: All right, always great to talk to you, by the way. A very good debate.
BERMAN: You, too.
O'REILLY: Thank you.
BERMAN: Only if you judge sexuality.
O'REILLY: .in a sexual way. Period. You don't do it.
BERMAN: These kids — these kids need support. And they need to know that it's OK to be who they are.
O'REILLY: Well, let them go to a support group run by you. It doesn't need to be.
BERMAN: Here I am.
O'REILLY: You know, you don't have to take out posters and put them on your front lawn.
BERMAN: Because they're supporting all the other kids that are stuck in hiding and now will feel safer.
O'REILLY: That is your extrapolation. Somebody else would say you're encouraging that kind of experimentation...
BERMAN: You can't encourage it.
O'REILLY: ...when you don't have to do it.
BERMAN: It happens anyway.
O'REILLY: All right, doctor, that's the old argument. Let's legalize drugs because it happens anyway. There's got to be boundaries.
BERMAN: Drugs are not the same. Homosexuality is not illegal.
O'REILLY: But it — you know what I'm talking about.
BERMAN: And it shouldn't be illegal.
O'REILLY: All right, always great to talk to you, by the way. A very good debate.
BERMAN: You, too.
O'REILLY: Thank you.
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